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Message 167 - Posted: 20 Aug 2010, 14:43:33 UTC - in response to Message 163.


What kind of equipment do you use? At the moment I am only using one slow Pentium M 1.6 Ghz processor, and my Boinc manager version is 6.10.18 (I know I should update).
I am looking forward to your reply, hopefully this problem can be resolved soon!



I am running a 2.2ghz duo core w/4gb of ram, 6.10.58 Boinc. And yes all 3 replicas were paid. I am slow to upgrade to newer version myself as I believe in the old saying...'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'. My current version is working fine so I am good to go for a while longer.

I have no idea why my 'abort' rate is that high compared to yours at this point.

I had suspended CAS@H until I could resolve the issues I am seeing. But I opened it up last night and started processing WUs again. I followed the first all the way thru thru and I was paid, as where all three. So right now, I am at a loss as to what is happening. One thing that might be happening is, that BOINC switches between project's fairly often sometimes even though I have it set to switch every 120 minutes. I do run a lot of projects (30) and some require 'high priorty' processing at times. So BOINC will run a short time on one WU, then switch to another to run in 'hi pri' for a while then move on to another. Some where in that shuffle, CAS@H's server may have checked the WU status and saw it had not been started, sent the abort command, but BOINC didn't get it in time to stop the WU until later. So it was processed and then when BOINC uploaded the WU, saw it had been aborted and did so. In that case, the problem is on my end. Running this many projects with the processor I have may be pushing BOINC to its limits to stay up with which WU to process next. In other words BOINCis at its 'wits end'. :)

I think at this point, I will let it go and track the problem a while longer. Maybe somewhere along the tracks, I can define the problem better. I will keep you posted.

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Message 168 - Posted: 20 Aug 2010, 15:37:51 UTC - in response to Message 164.
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Aslo, what I want to say is that this is also happening in other projects, not just CAS@home. My computer is also running WGC, you konw, it is a successful project. I checked the result list I had finished, and some results were not granted credits, either.

Please check your computer, network and BOINC client, although maybe it still can not resolve your problem.

Hopefully everything is OK!


Thanks for the information, Jie Wu. I am including a post I made to One World, One Dream earlier that might explain what may be happenning:


I had suspended CAS@H until I could resolve the issues I am seeing. But I opened it up last night and started processing WUs again. I followed the first all the way thru and I was paid, as where all three. So right now, I am at a loss as to what is happening. One thing that might be happening is, that BOINC switches between project's fairly often sometimes even though I have it set to switch every 120 minutes. I do run a lot of projects (30) and some require 'high priorty' processing at times. So BOINC will run a short time on one WU, then switch to another to run in 'hi pri' for a while then move on to another. Some where in that shuffle, CAS@H's server may have checked the WU status and saw it had not been started, sent the abort command, but BOINC didn't get it in time to stop the WU until later. So it was processed and then when BOINC uploaded the WU, saw it had been aborted and did so. In that case, the problem is on my end. Running this many projects with the processor I have may be pushing BOINC to its limits to stay up with which WU to process next. In other words BOINCis at its 'wits end'. :)



Can you see what I am mean here? Could this be my problem? Too many projects? Or the switching?

I don't know what 'WGC' is or how it effects the overall processing/validation/granted credits, of the project. I do know that none of my other projects have as many aborted WU as you do. CAS@H has FAR more 'projected aborted' WUs than any other. You can look at my list of tasks and see that for yourself. I feel this is inappropriate and your redundancy requirements could be handled a lot more efficiently than they are right now.

Meanwhile, 'back at the ranch', I will continue to follow this problem, and hopefully, find the true cause for my 'aborted' WUs. In the mean time, I have started processing CAS@H WUs again. I do like the science your doing and want to participate in it.

There is also, still the issue of the 'granted credits' being so low. This was the original premise of the thread. Could you please up it a few levels more, say 3-4x what it is now?? I would appreciate you looking into this and the other requests I made earlier. Allowing us to view our wingman information, moving the freinds list to the right of our profiles, fixing the user profiles to allow avatars and initiating the 'participant photo galleries'. I know you are busy, but these areas are just as important to us as your science is to you!

Thanks again for taking time to address our problems and answer questions.

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Message 173 - Posted: 22 Aug 2010, 16:11:45 UTC - in response to Message 168.

As to abortion problem, I think maybe it's the better to report it to http://boinc.berkeley.edu/help.php if you think it is "switch" problem.

As to "WGC", it is my fault, and so sorry for my incaution, it should be WCG(World Community Grid).

As to min_quorum, I have give a answer in another thread http://casathome.ihep.ac.cn/forum_thread.php?id=24.

As to bugs in web, I can not agree with you more, but please give me more time!

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Message 189 - Posted: 1 Sep 2010, 14:05:03 UTC
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Okay, back to the original thread topic. Can we please get an increase in the credits granted? Maybe a 2-3x increase would be fine. 12 credits\hr is pretty low. TIA

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Message 197 - Posted: 11 Sep 2010, 18:40:29 UTC

Maybe this project could think about the idea of raising the credits just a little, as this project is one of the low end credit projects. The credits are what we use for bragging rights and the credits here are nothing to brag about.


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Message 203 - Posted: 13 Sep 2010, 21:47:01 UTC

Personally I don't mind the low credits - yes they are harder to earn, but credit parity and inflation is always a problem.

I note the 3 WU and 2 quorum problem is not only in this project - it's part of the rules you sign up to.

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Message 205 - Posted: 29 Sep 2010, 1:58:17 UTC

I see sever upgrade ...Maybe wu credit upgrade too? :)

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Message 210 - Posted: 2 Oct 2010, 2:06:47 UTC - in response to Message 205.

I see sever upgrade ...Maybe wu credit upgrade too? :)

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We been trying. So far they haven't answered. One can hope, can one not?

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Message 211 - Posted: 2 Oct 2010, 2:40:25 UTC
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Now after the sever upgrade my quads only get two work units at a time, not 4 as was the case before the upgrade. Oh and PSSS up the credits please...!! :)

Oh one more thing Is anyone home over there at the project or no speaky english?

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Message 212 - Posted: 2 Oct 2010, 22:40:30 UTC - in response to Message 211.

Since the server upgrade I can only crunch two WU's at a time. I am beginning to wonder if it is worth while wasting my time on this projects. Is it realy worth while crunching this project with such low credits and allowed WU's at a time? My guess is the project already has plenty of volunteers and want to reduce the size so that they can handle the results.

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Message 214 - Posted: 3 Oct 2010, 0:09:05 UTC
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Well this has been an experience with this project. I will at this time give you my best wishes on a good return on your info. But do to the lack of communications and problems with this project I am now disengaging and going else where. Good luck.

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Message 216 - Posted: 6 Oct 2010, 23:28:01 UTC

Since there has been no explanation why we are only allowed to crunch two WU's only when my machine can crunch 8, I too am leaving this project until it has been rectified. It seems to me you do not need my help...

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